Pivoting During the Pandemic

Pivoting During the Pandemic with Ben Rector

Whether you had plans for your business, career, family, or personal life, COVID has probably derailed it to some point. Today, we talk about pivoting during the pandemic and turning our setbacks into new opportunities.

Ben Rector is a singer, songwriter, and record producer. Ben has appeared and performed on various television shows like Jimmy Kimmel Live! Conan, Live with Kelly and Ryan, and others. His songs make appearances on shows like American Idol, Ellen DeGeneres Show, World of Dance, Pretty Little Liars, and Castle.

In this episode, Ben talks about his music journey and how he’s had to restrategize his plans since the pandemic. He also shares his parenting insights and how he hits his reset button to stay on track.

What You’ll Learn

The Musician’s Journey


Ben had a humble beginning. He had no model to follow with no one in his family being musically-inclined. He grew up never thinking that music is something he would consider a job. He only started to embrace music professionally during college.


Ben loves playing any keyboard instrument or guitar.


Ben’s Appreciation for His Father


Ben appreciates his father for being stern while caring. His dad always showed up.


Ben witnessed his dad’s selflessness. He never doubted the love, care, and trust his dad had in him.


Pivoting during the Pandemic


Ben wants to make the best out of everything. He does not feel like there is any other option. Things will be difficult and challenging, and he will never be able to do any of it without his wife, Hillary.


The pandemic was the first time Ben was forced to slow down. It was the time he felt genuinely powerless. When his twins were born in such a time, it was peaceful yet weird for Ben.


Ben owns many aspects of his music. Any artist feels the sting in their income if they are highly-dependent on their record labels since they do not “own” the music.


Reset Button


Being honest with his feelings about situations has always been helpful for Ben. He is thankful that he and his wife have always been open with each other.

Being able to say out loud and name your difficulties is an affirmation that they exist and you are facing it. Everybody goes through challenges, and this rough time is a challenge for Ben and his wife—they are determined to take the challenge.


Parenting Legacy


Ben hopes to do an excellent job of letting his children know that he cares, loves, and supports them, just like how his father was for him. He hopes to gain their respect and to never doubt the love he has for them. He admires his father for the stern but caring approach, and he hopes to do the same thing.


What’s Next for Ben?


Ben envisions finishing his new record in the winter of 2022. His music and tours have been delayed due to the pandemic.


This pandemic was a luxury for Ben because, unlike pre-pandemic when things were chaotic, he now has space. He and his team take time to plan things out. Ben looks forward to being a dad, husband, and to moving around more before things start to get crazy again.


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Running Your Family as a Team with Marc Roberge from O.A.R.

Of a Revolution, or O.A.R., is a rock band that has been making music for over twenty years. Whether you know their name or not, chances are you’ve heard their songs on the radio. Today, we are honored to have O.A.R.’s lead singer Marc Roberge on the show for his second interview with The Dad Edge Podcast!

Marc talks about how dads can use this time of quarantine to reestablish the household hierarchy and start running the family as a team. He tells us what it’s like to be a dad on and off the road, how he keeps his marriage alive, and why he is open about his weaknesses and imperfections with his kids. He also shares stories about his own father and how the nostalgia of summers growing up in the neighborhood are the inspiration for his songs to this day.

This show is about the meaning of friends, family, and embracing the good and bad in life. Slow down and have a listen.

It takes work to run this household. If you work with me, it will run smoothly. If you battle me, we’re going to battle.—Marc Roberge


What do you call a band whose twenty year-career spans sold-out stands at both Madison Square Garden and Red Rocks Amphitheater, millions of albums sold over the course of what will be nine full-length releases, and multiple chart-busting entries? In the case of O.A.R., two simple words suffice: “The Mighty.”

That’s the best way to sum up the Maryland quintet—Marc Roberge [lead vocals, rhythm guitar], Richard On [lead guitar, backing vocals], Chris Culos [drums], Benj Gershman [bass], and Jerry DePizzo [saxophone, guitar, backing vocals, additionally MikelParis [keys, backing vocals, percussion] and Jon Lampley [trumpet, backing vocals].

Since their emergence in 1996, the musicians have tirelessly delivered a signature brand of rock steeped in alternative scope, roots tradition, and pop ambition. Among many highlights, 2008’s All Sides yielded the platinum single “Shattered” and bowed in the Top 15 of the Billboard Top 200 a space they continually occupied with King [2011] and The Rockville LP [2014].

Beyond packing arenas and amphitheaters coast to coast, they’ve given inspiring performances on The Today Show, CONAN, the 2015 Special Olympics Opening Ceremony, the ESPYS, in addition to playing their hit song “Peace” at the coveted Times Square New Year’s Eve Celebration on the eve of 2016.

“Richie Sambora announced us at Red Rocks as ‘The Mighty O.A.R.’ a few years back,” recalls DePizzo. “Those two words just stuck with us, and Marc suggested we use it as the album title. We have a great sense of pride in the career we’ve had up to this point. The term wraps up who the band is in 2019. It feels good to us.”

“Our hope is everyone leaves our show feeling better than when they got there,” says Culos. “We make that happen by playing together as a unit, playing with a pulse. Through that pulse, we tell our story. It’s about friends and family – our brotherhood. The Mighty refers to our foundation.”

O.A.R. most definitely do that on their latest offering. They also tread uncharted territory. Rather than follow the same playbook and record during a set timeframe, they intermittently recorded throughout 2018, working on or writing a song only when inspired. Crafting all the songs simultaneously until the very last hours of the production deadline. In the studio, longtime producer Gregg Wattenberg would be joined by PomPom, who added a fresh take on the sound with an electronic sensibility and expanded soundscape.

“We used to rent a place for a month, go in, write music, take off for a break, and then record for another month,” says Roberge. “Thanks to Wattenberg, we now had access to a brand new studio and his guidance without the pressures of the clock. We could come and go when inspired, and fell into this comfortable experience. For the first time the schedule went out the window.”

“PomPom grew up around O.A.R. music,” DePizzo says. “To be able to bring someone into the fold who came up with your tunes and influence added a whole different perspective.”

Case in point is the first single, “Miss You All The Time.” Produced by Gregg Wattenberg and Derek Fuhrmann. Its lush keys and moving guitar riff uphold an orchestral admission, “I miss you all the time.” The emotionally charged send-off immediately resonated with fans as the official music video directed by Rudy Mancuso swiftly clocked over 5 million views on YouTube, and counting.

“Like anyone, we’ve seen tragic losses over the years,” says Roberge. “You have people in your life who are so important and influential, and then one day they’re gone. It happens quickly, and you’re left to pick up the pieces. We wanted to celebrate their greatness instead of mourn. ‘Miss You All The Time’ is a moment to honor those who aren’t with us anymore.”

Whether it’s the space and harmony of “Free”, the uplifting anthem “California”, or the addictive groove on “Knocking at Your Door,” O.A.R. ignite a bold, brilliant, and inspired next chapter.

“It’s a renewal of experiences,” says Roberge. “We’ve built the foundation, we’ve got the confidence to be who we are.”

And, who are they now?

Well, they’re The Mighty O.A.R.

What You’ll Learn

  • The tremendous influence of Stephen King and Stan By Me on Marc’s music
  • Through all the tours and fame, Marc always comes home “when the streetlights come on.”
  • Even as a successful musician on tour, Marc values being home with his wife and family above all.
  • Life encompasses moments of loss, sadness, weakness, but the moments in between are what counts and should be celebrated.
  • Marc admits that it’s hard to maintain the patriarchal role when he’s weak and flawed. It helps him to be open about this to his wife and kids.
  • As a dad, Marc believes dads shouldn’t float around and hope it all works out. Get in the trenches.
  • Why parents should encourage kids to do their own thing and get on board with it
  • When things go wrong, kids usually are afraid to tell their parents. How can we create a net of psychological safety so they will come to us first?
  • Marc talks about how he could go to his dad for anything, and so did the kids in his neighborhood.
  • How Marc’s father led by example—very few words, no BS.
  • How Marc maintains open communication in the home.
  • Cultivating the team mentality in the family
  • How running your family as a team helps siblings get along better
  • The most important habit for kids is learning to take responsibility.
  • How the quarantine situation has helped Marc’s family ignore little frustrations and learn how to communicate better
  • Marc sees this time as a silver lining to the virus. This is the most time many of us have ever spent with our family.
  • Fathers have time to reestablish the hierarchy in the house.
  • The best times Marc and his wife shared were not big, exotic vacations but simple road trips in the car.
  • Why his wife is his “final call” person
  • The purest songwriting experience Marc ever had
  • How O.A.R. has adapted to Covid-19 life by songwriting on Zoom and streaming concerts from home.
  • Marc’s plan for living through the coronavirus—stay home, write songs, take care of himself and his family

It’s all about neighborhood. It’s all about crew. It’s all about your friends. I believe in that stuff. We’re not alone.—Marc Roberge


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OAR Of A Revolution with Marc Roberge

Of A Revolution with Marc Roberge

We are pumped to have the lead singer of the band OAR (Of A Revolution) on the show today. Marc Roberge has been making music and touring with OAR for twenty years. Marc also is a husband and a dad. Find out what wisdom he learned from his own father, and how he develops his relationships with his wife and kids while living the rock n’ roll dream.

Marc Roberge and Of A Revolution

Marc Roberge grew up in the suburbs of DC as one of three boys. He hung out with a close-knit group of good kids who all partied together like in the movie Dazed and Confused. He started playing music with his first band in the 8th grade.

When he was getting ready to go to college, he and his bandmates chose the school with the most local bars. This wasn’t because they were looking for places to drink. They were looking for places to play.

They never had any serious aspirations to become famous. Their main goal was to become professional artists who lived to create. Then they got lucky and began to build a relationship with their audience and twenty years later, O.A.R. has a huge loyal fan base and has released 13 albums. Marc believes to make music for a living is the luckiest thing in the world. He admits it’s not easy to be a family man and a musician, but it’s worth it.

'Even if it’s hard, it’s better than being alone.' – @marcroberge #dads #men #fathers #family #dadlife Click To Tweet

What You’ll Learn

  • How Marc’s dad’s no-nonsense influenced him
  • Why doing more and talking less helps keep him in the present
  • How he and his wife have been together since college
  • How he keeps the relationship with his wife alive while he’s on the road
  • Why Marc loves classic sitcom dads
  • How he switches off when he is home from tour
  • What daily life is like in their household
  • The ‘not sappy’ reality of being away from the family
  • How to keep the family going while he’s gone
  • His writing influences
  • The inspiration for some of his most popular songs
  • How choosing one or two core beliefs helps keep you grounded
'I know when I’m getting off track to just shut it down. Don’t say. Just do.' – @marcroberge #dads #men #fathers #success #dadlife Click To Tweet

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